England squad.

Chick

Cartwheel RIGHT
out of interest, what sort of proportion of the French/Italian teams were heavily involved in UK premier league?

ot: 3:0 to England in the one day series. Go on boys \o/
 

Gottaa

Full Member
Indeed it's not just down to one thing, as I have been saying

Didn't we win the series yesterday ? /confused
 

Janie

Full Member
out of interest, what sort of proportion of the French/Italian teams were heavily involved in UK premier league?
Italians I think zero (?) and French - Evra, Anelka, Gallas (plus a couple of others who didn't play).
 

Agravaine

Professional Slacker
The Germans have a good team but they didn't have to work very hard.

The goals I saw came from utterly inept defending. The ball comes down the England left so Cashley, Terry and Upson all go out to the left. Johnson has to come in to cover for the AWOL Terry and Upson which leaves acres of space on the right as Milner hasn't even contemplated following the runner and filling in at right-back.

At one point, the commentator said "That's Terry in the box" and, sure enough, there he was pretending to be a forward in open play. As I was thinking "WTF is the twat doing there - it's going to go wrong any second", the Germans took the ball off him, strolled down the pitch and scored.

I appreciate the need to chase the game when you're losing but it's pointless if you hand the opposition more goals.
 

Chick

Cartwheel RIGHT
Didn't we win the series yesterday ? /confused
We did indeed, though they nearly threw it in good style. Was spend the day chilling in a local park, alternately drinking Prosecco, goign on rides at eh carnival that was in town, and f5'ing my blackberry's cricket readout.

it was pro, and very quiet until 6 ish....
 

Janie

Full Member
I wonder if there is any chance we can get Arteta to 'become' English? I believe he actually can now. He's never going to get a look in with the strength the Spainish team have in centre midfield. His craft, vision and ability to actually make sensible passes certainly wouldn't go amiss!
I mean it's not as if the Germans played with a full squad of Germans - at least 4 of there team that started against us were born and raised outside germany!
 

Cullhaven

Hernes Son
Capello isnt a bad manager - his record speaks for itself. I just think we need a manager who knows how those players play in the premiership week in and week out and can get them playing like that on the International stage. Harry gets my vote, though I dont think hed ever take the job.
 

Agravaine

Professional Slacker
John Terry is a cock.

Capello is a great club manager. Not sure if he's not a great national manager or if he's just been saddled with a pack of twats. Maybe both.
 

Janie

Full Member
I refuse to believe anyone who actually thinks Gerrard and Lampard can play together in a 4 man midfield is a great manager at any level. I don't care how many medals your got if you can't idenify that these pair can't play together then your a bad manager.
Sven, McClaren and now Fabio has fallen for their trap - and every major torniment it's one of the major factors in why England don't progress. Both there strengths are coming into the play in the final quarter of the field and scoring goals, however neither of them are good at basic midfield buildup play - Gerrard constantly loses possession and Lampard tends to go missing, so with these pair in midfield we have no control and our midfield is constantly outplayed/overrun when facing a half decent team. Rooney had a bad world cup there is no disguising that fact, however we had no one in midfield passing to him - Gerrand and Lampard tend to both shoot whenever they get close to the box. Since Scholes has retired we haven't tried or discovered anyone with alittle clever passing skills in that key final third.

Still it can't be said enough - Gerrard and Lampard can't play together in a 4 man midfield (i'm not even certain they could work togther in a 5 man midfield to be honest).

Oh and Heskey is awful (another trap all England managers seem to fall for)

He's the best player in that he gets the best out of the players.
Haha!
 

Darakor

Full Member
I mean it's not as if the Germans played with a full squad of Germans - at least 4 of there team that started against us were born and raised outside germany!
Who do you mean? If I check the people that do not have obvious german names, I get the following:

Sami Khedira, born in Stuttgart, Germany
Mesut �zil, born in Gelsenkirchen, Germany
Lukas Josef Podolski, born in Gliwice, Poland in 1985, moved to Germany in 1987
Mario Gomez Garc�a, born in Riedlingen, Germany
Miroslav Josef Klose, born in Opole, Poland in 1978, moved to Germany at age 8, father is of the german minority in Poland
J�r�me Boateng, born in Berlin, Germany
Cacau - born in Brazil, moved to Germany at age 20, so I agree in his case, but he wasn't a starter against England

Not sure who you mean, Janie. Except for Cacau, I would count everybody born outside Germany to be raised here... Although I have to admit I did not check people with german sounding names, so maybe there is a surprise lurking there.
 

Mosop

Full Member
Maybe the midfield stoped passing to Rooney was cos he couldent controll the ball (may be nike got him to promote some new boots 5 weeks before a tournament again)

Over the whole tournament Rooney was Englands worst player (Barry had less games)


The Media must take a lot of blame for are failings,and Fabio has fallen for all there hype.

Calls for drop Hesky he's not bringing the best out of Rooney play Gerrard behind Rooney etc etc,were all crap Barry is our savior in the holding role crap.Gerrard cant play with Lampard in midfield crap no ever suggest droping BOTH of them if there not performing,theve both been capable of playing shit with the other on the field.

If you want to stick by your belief in playing 4 4 2 fine but pick players to fit those positions,not players who sell newspapers if Gerrard wont stay on the left then sub him.

Sob Fabio wont tell us the team two days in advance so we cant print it in the papers run pointless tv segments,its making the players nervious crap the players that sell newspapers (and WRITE for) new they were in the starting 11 before the world cup started.And they were our worst performers

The players were tired after a long season (maybe true) then pick players who had some rest during the season when the chapions league was on (ie there team wasnt in it) Jo cole hardly played much last season did he Alex ferguson told Fabio Hargreves wasnt fit enough crap fabio had no intention of using Parker so why not put Hargreaves into the 30 and find out yourself in the frendlys


Fabio was to stricked the players are bored etc etc crap more like were in a 5 star hotel our wags and agents want a part of it


I thought Fabio had the Balls to make decisions,and look how a player is playing and not get obsessed with the name on his back


The only way England are ever gona win the world cup is to take away all the journalist passports and play it on the RADIO
 

Soupytwist

Full Member
The media isn't exclusive to England though. Having spent some time in Portugal recently their media had a massive campaign to get Carlos Querioz removed from his role of coach of Portugal. I wouldn be very surprised if most European nations where football was the number one sport in the country also didn't suffer from media blanket coverage and I doubt the Journalism quality varies too much.

To me it simply comes down to the fact we were tactically inept and got away with it against the 3 group opposition because they didn't have the quality to punish us. But as soon as we came us against a decent team we got completely outplayed.
 

Cullhaven

Hernes Son
The Met office has warned people only to go outside today if really nescessary as there is a big shower of SHIT heading in from South Africa.
 

Jumani

Evil Monkey
"Meanwhile, central defender John Terry finally arrived back in England's 18-yard box last night only to find that everyone else had gone home.

He eventually got out of the stadium after climbing over a fence."

snigger...
 

Requiel

PVC Love God
David Blaine is said to be gutted after learning that Wayne Rooney has beaten his record for doing nothing in a box.
 

Jumani

Evil Monkey
To cheer up the England fans Capello has organised a friendly against Iceland. If we can beat them we go on to play Tesco and then Sainsburys.
 

Janie

Full Member
I find the big expensive Nike advert for the world cup amusing now.
I believe every single player that featured that ad firstly played poorly and secondly is out of the world cup now.

...wonder when will Rooney be moving into his caravan?
 
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