Sorc fireball synergies question

Cullhaven

Hernes Son
Went on Chipydips skill calculator and went on sorc.

set firebolt, fireball and fire mastery to 20 each and fireball synergised damage was over 2k

set firebolt meteor and fireball to 20 and synergised damage was 1.7 k

firemastery adds 30% damage on first skillpoint then 7% thereafter for a total of 163% fire damage on fireball if levelled to 20


Meteor adds 14% per level fire damage to fireball, which is 280% fire damage to fireball if leveled to 20

my maths say that meteor should give oodles more synergy damage than mastery - 280% > 144%

yet as you can see from the above its not doing so. is it my maths at fault?
 
Yeah meteor gives better bonus to fireball then mastery. If you want big meteor's, u max fire mastery first. If you want big fireballs, you max meteor first.

Get infinity too. It owns :D


Went on Chipydips skill calculator and went on sorc.

set firebolt, fireball and fire mastery to 20 each and fireball synergised damage was over 2k

set firebolt meteor and fireball to 20 and synergised damage was 1.7 k

firemastery adds 30% damage on first skillpoint then 7% thereafter for a total of 163% fire damage on fireball if levelled to 20


Meteor adds 14% per level fire damage to fireball, which is 280% fire damage to fireball if leveled to 20

my maths say that meteor should give oodles more synergy damage than mastery - 280% > 144%

yet as you can see from the above its not doing so. is it my maths at fault?
 

Cullhaven

Hernes Son
Tai, point is, its working opposite to that. Maxed mastery is giving my fireball way more damage than maxed meteor is. I think its because Fire mastery adds the % to synergies too, so it applying the 163% to both the fireball damage and the synergy damage from firebolt. Wheras the meteor synergy of 14% only applys to fireball damage.

try it on here and you will see.

Chippydip

put 20 in firebolt, fireball and mastery and look at the damage fireball gives.

Then put 20 in firebolt, fireball and meteor and see how much less damage your fireball is doing.
 

Entropy

Full Member
Probably best to hack a character offline to see exactly what happens if you max either skill.
 

Cullhaven

Hernes Son
Ive maxed fireball, firebolt and am a good way through mastery and it seems to agree with the calculator. I am trying to build an orb/fireball sorc with no points at all in meteor or any of the prereqs until the character is nearly finished.
 

Entropy

Full Member
I think it does make sense, since meteor can be used concurrently with fireball... consequently, you would expect a purely fireball sorc to do more damage with that spell.
 

30ftSmurf

Full Member
Running the numbers, it's because the synergies work on the base spell damage but the mastery works on the post-synergy damage.

E.g. eventual damage multiplier for double synergy is:
1*(1+2.8+2.8) = 6.6
But damage multiplier for single synergy + mastery is:
1*(1+2.8)*(1+1.63) = 9.994
 
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