Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

Entropy

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Just wondered if anyone has read it? About 3/4s of the way through, and it's piqued an interest in philosophy. Have a couple of quite unformed ideas about "quality" too...
 

Entropy

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Well, I finished it earlier today whilst I was still on holiday. I'm a bit conflicted about parts of it, but overall thought it was a great book.
 

Pictelf

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Haven't read it but heard generally positive stuff about it. The sort of book that I would ask to borrow if I saw it on someone's shelf :)
 

Entropy

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It's very well constructed. Anyone that can turn a debate about aristotelean and platonic metaphysics into the climax of a book must be a good writer!
 

Cullhaven

Hernes Son
Another good history of thought book you might find a good read is
The Sleepwalkers by Arthur Koestler

The book challenges the habitual idea of a progressive science working towards a definite goal. The suggestion of the title is that the scientific discoveries and the geniuses that come to them are like a game of sleepwalking. Not that they come by pure chance, but that often the genius doesn't really know that he has discovered, as it is evident for instance in the three Laws of Kepler.

It emphasises also how much one generation stands on the shoulders of the next - Much of Keplers discovery relied on the data collected by Tycho Brahe, Newton advancing a lot of Gallileos ideas etc. Am currently reading the Act of Creation by him but its a lot harder going. He also wrote the Ghost in the machine and two good books about evolution called The Case of the Midwife Toad and the Roots of coincidence. All on me "to read" list.
 

Entropy

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I've just bought a few books from Amazon, but I'll take a look at them when I've got through them (you can get a free Prime account for a month now which is quite nice so everything arrives when you order it!). Thought I'd give some of Schopenhauer's stuff a go too, since when I looked at a Critique of Pure Reason it was a little too hardcore... think it's the kind of thing you need to work your way up too...
 

Cullhaven

Hernes Son
oh and dont forget:
Immanuel Kant was a real pissant
Who was very rarely stable.

Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
Who could think you under the table.

David Hume could out-consume
Schopenhauer and Hegel

And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
Who was just as schloshed as Schlegel.

There's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach ya
'Bout the raising of the wrist.
Socrates, himself, was permanently pissed.

John Stuart Mill, of his own free will,
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.

Plato, they say, could stick it away--
Half a crate of whisky every day.

Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle.
Hobbes was fond of his dram,

And Ren� Descartes was a drunken fart.
'I drink, therefore I am.'

Yes, Socrates, himself, is particularly missed,
A lovely little thinker,
But a bugger when he's pissed.

Courtesy of profs Bruce, Bruce and Bruce, University of Woolloomooloo
 
i read it a few years back - was a hard going read but worth it in the end.

the sequel ("Lila an Enquiry into morality") i'm still ashamed to say i nevet got more than a couple of chapters into...
 

Guy

Piper/Leonaedas
Must have read it a good 15 years ago, so to be honest I can barely remember it. Oddly enough I had a friend round not two weeks ago and I gave my copy to him to read...
 
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