360 / HDMI

[Gottaa]

Hi All,

Just pondering my setup in the new house, and have got some cheap and cheerful 1.8M HDMI cables for 360/PS3/Apple TV (Sky comes with one I'm told), and it's dawned on me the 360 might not actually have an HDMI port, if it doesn't am I better off flogging that 360 and getting a new one with HDMI built in rather than some dodgey cable which will still output lower res than from HDMI ?

It's all going to be plugged into an Onkyo amp so if it is all HDMI that will make the cabling much easier, and will mean I only need one HDMI cable going from the amp to the TV.

P.S Anyone else game on a Plasma ? I've heard gaming is the worst thing to do on a Plasma but I can't see how it's worse than the Channel logo's

 

[Swither]

I never got the HDMI to work between the xbox and TV, but the next update will include a chunck of support to fix this apparently.

 

[Pegasus Belgar]

The original 360 did not come with HDMI, only when they released the black elite that they included and HDMI output. I use my Elite through my Samsung LCD TV using HDMI and it all works fine, better picture quality too.

What I am not sure about is if the later editions of the standard 360 have a HDMI output on them or its just the Elite.

 

[Pegasus Belgar]

double post!

 

[Gottaa]

Mine is I'd guess two years old, white, and sounds like a jet engine is taking off, which makes me think it's the older one

 

[Rochdale]

HDMI works fine on my elite. At least it did, I haven't powered it up since I rewired everything through my amp.

 

[Requiel]

My white one has HDMI and is about two-ish years old (it's a 20GB model). Never had any problems with connecting it up to the telly.

 

[Corwin]

20gb, again about 2 years, and has a perfectly fine HDMI, i actually use the HD Component cables though, but both work fine on mine

Original Arcade never had it, but i think the new one does.

 

[Gottaa]

only two weeks and 14 hours till I get by consoles back from storage, then I can look for myself.

/ffwd two weeks

 

[Corwin]

Same, 2 weeks = payday = motorbike

 

[Gottaa]

Ohhh nice ! What you getting ?

 

[Corwin]

One of These

 

[Gottaa]

Now we need an audio clip of it as well

Very nice though, comfy, you can relax at the lights and an actual centre stand for parking sports bikes dream of

/approve

 

[Pegasus Belgar]

Nice bike Corwin!

Maybe a new thread for us bikers, but I am saving up for a Harley Davidson Vrod Muscle.

 

[Kelger]

Hi All,
P.S Anyone else game on a Plasma ? I've heard gaming is the worst thing to do on a Plasma but I can't see how it's worse than the Channel logo's

Anyone know on this? In the market for a decent sized flat screen TV soon myself, stuff I read seemed to suggest Plasmas these days are fine with fast moving game type stuff though can be prone to screen burn on still aspects like HUDS though it's ment to go after a little while on the new ones.

 

[Cadfiel]

Plasmas will give you a better contrast range and viewing angle which makes them great for TV use BUT can burn in on a static image in litterally a couple of hours.

LCD dont suffer from this, while they can suffer from image retention, this isnt permanent and will clear though use in a couple of hours tops and is usually an overheating issue which can be solved through proper ventilation.

Also the latest Samsung TVs which use LEDs will give you a much better contrast range as it can turn off the LED backlights and so get darker blacks and so is closer to Plasma contrast ranges.

If your using it for gaming i would still suggest a LCD and save the plasmas for films. Both can do the job, but i still see many plasmas with screen burn just down to one accident where they have left the tv and forgotten while playing a console.

 

[Brutus]

As regards the HD from the Xbox, and having one that can do it anyway, a very overlooked workaround is that the component output is also capable of full HD from the xbox, ran mine on it for ages and it twas good!

 

[Gottaa]

WHY DOES BACKSPACE WHEN YOU CLICK ON A NON EDIT AREA GO BACK A PAGE, lost my post :/

The upshot is I'm lucky enough to be getting 2 HD tellies, one for TV/cinema which is gonna be the Panasonic TX-P42G10S NeoPDP plasma screen and I'm still undecided, and while I'm happy to play a little on the Plasma I don't want to end up burning in on it, myself simply to know Plasma wouldn't be good for gaming :/

LCD's all seem to suffer alot more with screen lag which was a turn off, and LED's that I have seen were horrible, the idea of dimming the whole/parts of the screen sounds good, but when you actually see if it just makes the areas dark and you lose definition, or in the case of subtitles can't even read them sometimes.

I dunno, I wish there was just a place you could pay to use, have three screens setup properly next to each other and make a more informed choice

 

[Requiel]

LCDs used to have screen lag 10 years ago when it was new technology. Nowadays that's only an issue with really cheap and cheerful brands.

 

[Gottaa]

http://www.avforums.com/reviews/Samsung-LE40B651-LCD-HDTV-Review.html

That's on a new LCD, with a "Gaming Mode" that cuts the lag but sounds like it cuts the quality to do it

http://www.avforums.com/reviews/Samsung-UE40B6000VW-LED-LCD-TV-Review.html

That shows why I don't like LED's

I dunno, I don't really want to spend about a grand on a new telly which looks GREAT on stationary images but then either lags or blurs, now my old telly wasn't great picture quality being an old huge telly but it also never suffered with motion blur or lags.

Dunno don't see the point in this amazing HD technology when the actual real world results on a game are more jarring than the lesser quality of the old SD image quality (if you get my drift).

And only about 8 months ago Talili and I went into Comet, a place where they tried to sell you an HD telly and saw such horrible blur and massive pixelisation on fast action on most of the tellies, with the salesman just wanting to ignore those issues, and point out the clairity on the slow moving images.