Promyvions...

Vigilia

Mrs. Scudley
Ok, since the forum wipe took away the plan we had and Raven and Milii have both vanished and no word if Milii is still planning to run these or not, I'd like to try arrange the runs. I really really want these done, and it seems several others do too so here goes. :)

Few notes though: I don't like to boss people around and if I ask something to be done there is usually a good reason for it. So if you have something against being asked not to run off and asked to do something in the battle or to pay attention to chat log, then don't bother signing up. Also, each run I won't take more than 2 parties tops, otherwise the alliance is just too big for its own good. If more peeps sign up then it's first come first served depending on job needs.

General approach I'm taking is that we're going to do these efficiently, I'm not planning on a linkshell fun day out for all. ClanUK cute and cuddly carebear ethos is all nice and fun, but it gets us nowhere fast. I'm planning to finally get these sons of bitches done, it's nearly a year since CoP came out. If you want to cut down a tree shading your garden using an Asda Price kitchen knife, be my guest, but I'm going to go with the chainsaw.

I'm planning to schedule these on Saturdays, two promys each day. First one in the afternoon, that leaves time for a dinner break inbetween. Then regroup for a second one later in the evening, and do this for 3 consecutive weekends. This means each promy will be done twice on both an afternoon and evening time slot and should give everyone a chance to get them done. Also, the fridays before the runs, I'm going to farm animas if anyone wants some.

Proposed Schedule and parties:

August 27th

Promyvion-Mea @3pm GMT
Party1:
Froggis WAR
Minagi WAR
Dafydd RNG
Beatrize WHM

Party2:

Promyvion-Holla @8pm
Party1:
Froggis WAR
Minagi WAR
Dafydd RNG
Beatrize WHM

Party2:

September 3rd

Promyvion-Dem @3pm

Promyvion-Mea @8pm
Party1:
Sinoc BLM
Ritter WAR
Moorey WHM

September 10th

Promyvion-Holla @3pm
Party1:
Ritter WAR
Moorey WHM

Promyvion-Dem @8pm
Party1:
Ritter WAR
Moorey WHM

Peeps who can come back and help on other weekends:
Beatrize? WHM

To sign up, post here the times you'd like to attend and the jobs you can bring. Also, if you can help others complete their missions if there are parties short of peeps that would be much appreciated. Party setups are for each party: 2x WAR/NIN (dual blink tanks), 1x WHM or RDM/WHM (main healer) and 3x heavy DD (BLM and/or RNG and/or SMN). Always save your 2-hour for the boss fight. It's usually the key to an easy victory.

You must have decent gear (by this I don't mean you need all HQ +2 gear, just appropriate gear for your job- i.e. no mages with +STR rings and if you're tanking don't wear the lvl 7 leather set) for lvl 30 for the job you volunteer to come as, this isn't like the 2-3 mission dragon fight you can do naked. You must also bring relevant food and mages bring juices. Medicines I'll leave up to you apart from obvious things like echo drops that you should carry with you at all times anyway if your job casts anything.

I think the most important thing that I've learnt of Promys so far is that the party must stick together on the way to the spire. The way we'll do it is that we'll have ONE dedicated ranger as a scout, and he'll run ahead and check for clear paths and find the memory receps. When the party/alliance is moving, everyone must pay attention (never use autofollow when moving in potentially aggro areas!). Mobs inside Promyvion aggro by proximity and their aggro range isn't terribly huge so avoiding aggro isn't very difficult. If you need to practice, try running a lvl1 mule from Windurst to Mhaura a couple of times. But the mobs do move around and even though the person ahead of you just got past a mob safely doesn't mean you will. Stay well clear of them and keep everyone else safe. To paraphrase JFK, ask not what your party can do for you but what you can do for your party and we'll be ok. :)

Now, lets finally get these Promys done. :D

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ClanUK | Promyvion
 
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Froggis

Trial Member
Sign me up for August 27th with both parties =D Will go as war or whm, preferably war.

Er, actually, can I be the whm for both instead?
 
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Dafydd

I love my Brick!
I have Warrior and Ranger all ready for these so sign me up! i got bags of time on me so whatever time slot im needed il go
 

Scudley

Mr. Scudley
Count me down for helping on all or as many as I'm at home for. Will have to move flat at some point during these dates and various visits to Vig's obviously. Willing to sacrifice lots of my time just to get these done and finished with. You never know we may get a good mini static going and try to complete all the prommies and get our rings? but hey lets not run before we can walk lets get everyone past all these or as many as possible at least. Then I can finally sell my lvl30 gear lol
 

Vigilia

Mrs. Scudley
Added you guys to the list, and Froggis, I left you as WAR because you said that was your first preference and it works best with the volunteers so far. If you really don't want to be WAR I'll change you to WHM but that means Bea will end up in another weekend's slot or she'll have to come as WAR.

Also, if anyone is short on gear, the clanukmule holds quite a bit of lvl 30-ish gear including a full Kampf set (HQ version of the lvl 30 WAR/PLD set) and some seer's gear along with elvaan male and taru RSE that you're all welcome to borrow if needed. I've personally got lvl 30 WAR gear too, but just NQ set and some accessories + 2x tiger hunters.
 
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Minagi

Cymru Am Byth!
Talking about gear, who here has experience of Valky Emperor? I might try to get one of those rare/ex hairpins before we do this, any detail on pop locations, expected pop frequency and stuff like that would be greatly appreciated as I've never even seen the thing before. :p
 

Ritter

Demon of Razgriz
Id like to go on these any saturday is good for me so put me down for the one with the less members and i can go as War/ Nin okay thanks Rit
 

Vigilia

Mrs. Scudley
Valkurm Emperor pops in the trees on the beach left of Selbina when you come out of the gates (Whitebone), I've seen it there a couple of times.

Found this on Allak, sounds like a good guide (get a stopwatch btw if you're camping NMs seriously, I know Scuds uses a timer too to get the pops right)

Ok, server maintenence, so new NM camping strategy.
This one is most easily done on thf/rng or rng/thf combo. A little more difficult is on any combo with a thf sub lvl 25 for flee.

As with almost all NMs on the game, there is only 1 placeholder. Most people dont know this fact, and even some say that its not possible at all for him to have only 1 placeholder, but, he does!

First of all, there are only 5 damselflys that you need to concern yourself with. These are the 5 that spawn between E-8 and F-9.
Each damselfly will fly within the paramaters of a particular spot on the map. It is difficult to explain without the use of pictures and map markers, but i will try. Each position of the damselfly will be in relation to the 'oasis' facing due north.

First damselfly will be to the right, over the ridge to the very right of the oasis. This one can spawn between the two trees over the ridge to the right all the way down to the far right corner on the beach. This one will fly around in that same area, but will not go above the ridge directly to the right of the oasis.

The second will spawn from near the beach to the hill directly past the oasis, and slightly to the right corner of the oasis, and to aboud midway down the hill to the north of the oasis, and to the apex of the left hill.

The third will spawn behind the hill to the left of the oasis to the far south west near the beach to the two trees to the northwest of the oasis.

The fourth will spawn from the trees to the northwest of the oasis to the far left wall behind the rock, but not up the cliff.

The fifth, of course, is the placeholder. this is why it takes widescan to see the exact placements of each damselfly prior to killing one. If there are 2 damselflies in any given spawn area and flight region, then one of them is most likely the placeholder for VE. Since the movement paths of each damselfly overlaps slightly, there could possibly be 2 near the outer edge of their regular paths, but still not be the placeholder. The only way to truely see which is the placeholder is to first watch their movements on widescan or by following them around. Then finding the area with 2 damselflys in relative proximity to each other near the center of their flight paths.
After you have determined that the placeholder is one of two damselflies, all you have to do is kill them both. A damselfly's respawn time is 2:06 game hours (or 5 minuts 11 seconds) give or take a few game minutes. Kill one damselfly in the area, and add 2:06 to the exact time of death of that damselfly, and you will know the time that he will spawn next. then, wait about 1 minute before killing the other. Widescan just after the time has passed by for the fly to have popped, and find his position. If it is outside of the pre-determined spawn/flight radius of the damselfly that belongs in that section, you know which is the placeholder for VE.
Then the fun part comes in.

After you determine which is the placeholder, you have to keep up with him. This is easiest done by fleeing before the spawn, and widescaning directly after the spawn. If your damselfly just spawned, chances are you can either run to it really fast and kill it to get next time, or to see someone else kill it and still get the next timer. Also extremely helpful to have flee up before VE spawns so you will have no delay in getting flee up and going to him.

A word of caution: If you are not completely sure exactly wether the damselfly you saw or killed was the placeholder or not, save your flee, and just widescan at the time you had for his next spawn, and write down the spawn times for any other damselflys you killed. This way, even if you are wrong, you will still have flee if VE spawns, and you were wrong about the placeholder.

The only reason i am sharing this information now is because it took me the longest time to figgure out, and i have the Empress Hairpin for my nin now. I will no longer be camping VE unless a friend needs the Emperess Hairpin, and needs help camping. Good luck with obtaining your Empress Pin :)
 

Vigilia

Mrs. Scudley
Ritter said:
Id like to go on these any saturday is good for me so put me down for the one with the less members and i can go as War/ Nin okay thanks Rit

Do you need all of them or just some?
 

Vigilia

Mrs. Scudley
Scudley's internet is going down this week's Thursday and no certainty when it will be back up, possibly next week, but could be up to couple of weeks. I'm going to have to take our names down until he can get back online. And yes, I've been practically begging him to just bring his PC over and do these Promies over at my place but no success. ;_;
 

Froggis

Trial Member
Meh, if yoou two can't make it, I'd prefer not to have to go with strangers... I have the worst luck with promies done with strangers.
 

Feyla

Mrs Sorran
Should we postpone these then? Would make more sence to have everyone there. Better to get these done for all.

I need all three Crags and can go as.

nin, war, blm, whm, or rdm. any combo :)
 

Vigilia

Mrs. Scudley
Aye, guess so, really sorry about this guys, I did offer several times Scuds to come over (also because I want these done so badly it's unreal) and do them here but he's busy and stressed out with the move anyway so probably better wait till everyone can focus on these 100%. :(
 

Zerine

Enpi Enpi Enpi Enpi Enpi Enpi /gasp
NP Vig. Scud needs to sort his flat out, Promyvion's can wait.

As an addendum, I've been levelling SMN (currently 26), so if I hit 30 you may need to reconsider me as WHM for them as SMN (apparently) make the boss fights easier with <Astral Flow>. I'm easy either way though, happy to come as whatever and get these done :)
 
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