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Treebeard
Ranger of the North
Doesn't matter, he looked where the player was and went for him. The rules don't say about contact they talk about "strikes or attempts to strike an opponent." He should've been off at that point, if a striker did the same to him he would have gone aboslutely ballistic! And the amount of time he jumps about as if someone has stepped on his foot when they haven't is ridiculous...
I dunno where this "Teh Arse should've spanked Spudz" came from that I keep hearing, they had the same number of shots on target as us. Having four times as many punts that aren't even goal bound doesn't mean you should win (although Whinger seems to think so!) Also everyone seems to be forgetting just how AWOL they were for most of the first half, Spurs were all over them for large parts of the first 45!
Also, both of those free kicks Arse scored from were bloody dodgy to say the least, dives is putting it mildly especially the first one. Still, once they are given you have to defend them which is something we blatantly didn't do.
Just to show I'm not just Goonah bashing, Fab did put some amazing passes together!
For the start of the first half Spurs were well on top but for the rest of it it was pretty unforgettable.
Second half I forgot who we were playing at times as it looked just like the one team out there. Spurs couldn't cope with the pace or movement at all and looked about 5 seconds behind what was going on around them. It was a massacre on a playing level and Spurs have a long way to go for a consistent top 4 tbh.
Hitting the woodwork 3 times, an offside goal that looked pretty lvl and a couple of open goals skyed over the bar were far better chances that Spurs had.
Even Jol said after the game they deserved nothing from it.
Galias
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Certainly with ya on that one. TBH though any team ouside the current top 4 seem to me to have a long way to go to get up there, a real gulf has opened up between the top 4 and the rest. A decent cup run and some decent Euro adventures once in a while will do me at the moment (even if the Euro adventures will be guaranteed to be in the CL parachute competition).
Yeah, I guess the woodwork did more than help us salvage a point.
As for the offside, it was fractional but he was. If that was Keane at the other end if you twisted my arm I would have to concede that he was off, only just but that is enough.
I've been there when Teh Arse have fluked a last second goal to beat us, so I will certainly take what we got at the weekend with no pangs of guilt whatsoever!
Janie
Full Member
Not quite sure I agree with this, last season Spurs took Arsenal to the last game of the season for 4th spot. This season Spurs has generally disapointed and all the other teams around the 5th - 10th spot can't get a run going to really challenge. I think Arsenal are on the way down, I think Dein senses the last 2 seasons Arsenal have started to get left behind and that's why he's quit (or rather he wanted foreign investment to boost Arsenals spending budget but the other board members didn't, so he quit or got kicked out). I think Man Utd, Chelsea and now Liverpool with their new spending power will start to move away from Arsenal and any ambitious team in the Prem will look at Arsenals 4th spot as a geniune chance, with more teams getting brought out by rich businessmen Arsenal may get left behind. Of course the real factor will be when Wenger leaves.
Galias
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Spurs had the shortest season possible last season with a quick exit from both cups leaving them only playing 40 games in the whole season, this had a hell of a lot to do with them ending up where they did!
The table tends to back me up, there are two gaps in the table which are greater than 6 points (two wins). The gap between 2nd and 3rd is 12 points (and the scary thing about that is the teams in 1st and second both have a game in hand although that is them needing to face each other) and also the gap between 4th and 5th is 9 points. It may not read exactly like that at the end of the season but from where I am sat it appears that the biggest hurdles in the Premiership is breaking into the top four and the top two.
Janie
Full Member
Who wrote that for you? It doesn't have enough gramatical and spelling mistakes to be born of your Norfolk 'education'
I didn't have time to read it back, edit it and dumb it down to a level Ky could understand it. I'm sorry.
Flight
Full Member
The Mancs have to do some serious spending in the summer. The last few weeks have shown they simply don't have a big enough squad as it is, without any injuries.
They are only where they are now because :
i) they have had ZERO injuries all season, up to now;
ii) Scholes, Giggs, Neville, Van der Saar and Ronaldo have had terrific season.
Scholes (33), Giggs (34) and Neville (33) are all pushing mid thirties, VdS is 132 (actually 37) and they are looking tired.
Not only do those players need replacing, but they need better squad players.
They've done well this season, but they remind me of us in 1990-91. At the top of our game, playing key players a season too long, squad not good enough and pipped to the post in the title race.
They are only where they are now because :
i) they have had ZERO injuries all season, up to now;
ii) Scholes, Giggs, Neville, Van der Saar and Ronaldo have had terrific season.
Scholes (33), Giggs (34) and Neville (33) are all pushing mid thirties, VdS is 132 (actually 37) and they are looking tired.
Not only do those players need replacing, but they need better squad players.
They've done well this season, but they remind me of us in 1990-91. At the top of our game, playing key players a season too long, squad not good enough and pipped to the post in the title race.
Janie
Full Member
I think all 3 of these are 1 year younger than you say. But yeah Giggs and Scholes will be really hard to replace and I don't think Richardson (drivel) and Fletcher (getting better) are anywhere near the level to take over. Pederson at Blackburn is a real quality Left winger although not in the Giggs mold, maybe pick him up and let him learn from Giggs next season. Can't think of any in the Prem who could replace Scholes - best centre midfielder by a mile.
As for Stretch in goal. I think they have 2 promising younger Keepers to try before they splash the cash.
Not a chance Utd will win the title.
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Flight
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Yeah, thats their next birthdays, in a few months time.
The best is Foster; he is massively overhyped because he is young, English and at the Mancs. If they have to turn to him for any length of time I'd be well chuffed.
Treebeard
Ranger of the North
We're better off points wise with an improvement in some of the weaknesses that troubled us last season with Henry and Van Persie out. You'll forgive me if I don't take your post too seriously.
Janie
Full Member
Upto you. 3 seasons ago you went unbeaten and were the best team in the league, 2 seasons ago you fought Chelsea for the title and won the FA cup, last season you reached the Champions league final. This season you've had nothing to play for since March, that's a downward slide IMO. Lot of things happened in the Prem in the last 3-2 seasons Chelsea have set the standard and Utd have now upped their game to start to match them. Liverpool look like they have gone to the next level now as well. Not sure Arsenal aren't going to start to drop away - At the minute your clinging on due the brilliance of Wenger, but if he goes you may be in trouble.
This isn't an anti Arsenal rant as I actually much prefer Arsenal to Chelsea, just saying it as I see it, which maybe wrong.
Last season you finished on 67 points, currently you have 63 with 3 to play - it may not yet be a better points finish (although it should - hopefully you'll get 3 against Chelsea )
This isn't an anti Arsenal rant as I actually much prefer Arsenal to Chelsea, just saying it as I see it, which maybe wrong.
Last season you finished on 67 points, currently you have 63 with 3 to play - it may not yet be a better points finish (although it should - hopefully you'll get 3 against Chelsea
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Treebeard
Ranger of the North
Upto you. 3 seasons ago you went unbeaten and were the best team in the league, 2 seasons ago you fought Chelsea for the title, last season you reached the Champions league final. This season you've had nothing to play for since March, that's a downward slide IMO. Lot of things happened in the Prem in the last 3-2 seasons Chelsea have set the standard and Utd have now upped their game to start to match them. Liverpool look like they have gone to the next level now as well. Not sure Arsenal aren't going to start to drop away - At the minute your clinging on due the brilliance of Wenger, but if he goes you may be in trouble.
This isn't an anti Arsenal rant as I actually much prefer Arsenal to Chelsea, just saying it as I see it, which maybe wrong.
Last season you finished on 67 points, currently you have 63 with 3 to play - it may not yet be a better points finish (although it should - hopefully you'll get 3 against Chelsea
You're missing the fact that we lost Pires, Campbell and Bergkamp in that period. We never had the money to replace them like for like and the fact that we are still top 4 shows, as you say, how brilliantly Wenger has done but also give the players some credit. You also seem to think Wenger is going. Maybe you know something I don't.
We are building and I don't think you can judge the current teams potential for another year or two.
TBH either way I don't care as long as there is an Arsenal to support 1st, 4th or last.
Ky
Stupid is as stupid does
I think the fact that David Dein has gone is why Janie is questioning whether Wenger will stick around post 2008, which is when his contract runs out.
You did indeed lose Pires, Campbell and Bergkamp (plus Cashley Cunt but no big loss there as you gained Bill) but you also bought Rosicky, Hleb, Adebayour and RvP was brought in as a Bergkamp replacement while he was still at the club. You also splashed out on the untested Walcott so I don't know what you are saying in respect of not having any money to replace them.
I think the problem has been that out of all those signings, none have been an bona fide success yet, although there is still time for them. Hleb is a good player but he isn't a right winger. Rosicky hasn't proved he can cut the mustard in the Prem yet. Adebayour is a good player but not a natural goalscorer. Henry being out a lot this season hasn't helped but you need a proven goalscorer a la Ian Wright.
Wengers signings are normally absolutely brilliant but the recent ones are not quite up to his usual standards yet.
You did indeed lose Pires, Campbell and Bergkamp (plus Cashley Cunt but no big loss there as you gained Bill) but you also bought Rosicky, Hleb, Adebayour and RvP was brought in as a Bergkamp replacement while he was still at the club. You also splashed out on the untested Walcott so I don't know what you are saying in respect of not having any money to replace them.
I think the problem has been that out of all those signings, none have been an bona fide success yet, although there is still time for them. Hleb is a good player but he isn't a right winger. Rosicky hasn't proved he can cut the mustard in the Prem yet. Adebayour is a good player but not a natural goalscorer. Henry being out a lot this season hasn't helped but you need a proven goalscorer a la Ian Wright.
Wengers signings are normally absolutely brilliant but the recent ones are not quite up to his usual standards yet.