Early Wii Pre-order (not open to public till this evening)
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Dead Again, I need a Rez
Well i wont be getting mine now, i only want Zelda and Wii Play plus other games that were coming out after the launch date.. But been looking at prices and no way im paying �40 per game. I thought these were ment to be cheaper than other console games.
I might get a US console when things calm down as there games are way cheaper.
I might get a US console when things calm down as there games are way cheaper.
Which would make it 35 quid per game, and once it's released I'd reckon they will sell here for 32.99 to 37.99.
So if you do have to pay the tax it'll be about the same, if you don't it'll be lots less
As long as the messages work across regions I don't mind as I'll still be able to send you mine and Talili's Mii's to fill up your Mii channel. If I'm feeling cruel I may make a Mii for each Chinchilla and Rosie and send those as well (I wonder if they have a "furry" skin type)
So if you do have to pay the tax it'll be about the same, if you don't it'll be lots less
As long as the messages work across regions I don't mind as I'll still be able to send you mine and Talili's Mii's to fill up your Mii channel. If I'm feeling cruel I may make a Mii for each Chinchilla and Rosie and send those as well
(I wonder if they have a "furry" skin type)
Ky
Stupid is as stupid does
Wii hasn't been getting great reviews.
I see it as being one of those things thats fun for a bit, then it sits on the shelf and collects dust.
Call me lazy but I don't want to prance around my living room like a cock just to play a video game....
Fun for the kiddies I suspect but those that like a little substance to their video games should probably look elsewhere.
I see it as being one of those things thats fun for a bit, then it sits on the shelf and collects dust.
Call me lazy but I don't want to prance around my living room like a cock just to play a video game....
Fun for the kiddies I suspect but those that like a little substance to their video games should probably look elsewhere.
On the plus side it's much smaller than the other consoles so won't take as long to dust
*insert random joke about your cock prancing around the living room*
As far as substance I'll bite on this bit and say "bollocks" until you give some example or comparison. As far as reviews go I've not really read "console" reviews, just the games and some blog bits I'd be interested on seeing links to some actual reviews of the consoles (if nothing else I'm itching to hear reviews on 6AXIS). Oh and on Games reviews Zelda > Resistance
PS3 - Resistance 89%
Wii - Zelda 96%
*insert random joke about your cock prancing around the living room*
As far as substance I'll bite on this bit and say "bollocks" until you give some example or comparison. As far as reviews go I've not really read "console" reviews, just the games and some blog bits I'd be interested on seeing links to some actual reviews of the consoles (if nothing else I'm itching to hear reviews on 6AXIS). Oh and on Games reviews Zelda > Resistance
PS3 - Resistance 89%
Wii - Zelda 96%
Ky
Stupid is as stupid does
You're a huge fanboi though, I'm not. I'll give it a whirl but at someone else's expense. I certainly think it'll be novelty value though rather than something that has lasting appeal. The motion sensor shit is all well and good but the console spec regarding graphics and stuff is, lets face it, second rate.
What its done well is differentiated itself from the PS3 and the 360 but thats why I think it will have limited appeal to the wider audience. Yes, its got motion sensors. Yes, its quirky. But as with all the Nintendo console offerings since the SNES, rebadging the same old games time and time again is not going to end up with a leading market share in the console world.
I think it'll be a success simply because it'll appeal to kids and its at a decent price. But would I buy one? I doubt it. Its not what I'm looking for as a gaming machine.
Also, as sure as eggs are eggs, if the Wii is a huge success, both Sony and M$ will bring out motion controller add-ons + games for their machines thereby removing any competitive advantage Nintendo had.
What its done well is differentiated itself from the PS3 and the 360 but thats why I think it will have limited appeal to the wider audience. Yes, its got motion sensors. Yes, its quirky. But as with all the Nintendo console offerings since the SNES, rebadging the same old games time and time again is not going to end up with a leading market share in the console world.
I think it'll be a success simply because it'll appeal to kids and its at a decent price. But would I buy one? I doubt it. Its not what I'm looking for as a gaming machine.
Also, as sure as eggs are eggs, if the Wii is a huge success, both Sony and M$ will bring out motion controller add-ons + games for their machines thereby removing any competitive advantage Nintendo had.
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Ky
Stupid is as stupid does
I'm not trying to upset him - he reckons it'll be the nads, fair enough, I think it'll be a 5 minute wonder that you only ever get out after coming home pissed
Diversity of opinion Mark, its what makes the world go round. Or at least its what makes people blow each other up, invade other countries, stab people with pickaxe handles, etc....
Diversity of opinion Mark, its what makes the world go round. Or at least its what makes people blow each other up, invade other countries, stab people with pickaxe handles, etc....
Adding a "motion sensing" after the fact doesn't cut it though does it. Part of what makes the Wii special is that stuff is there from day 1, all developers can happily develop for it knowing it's there rather than developing a game for a 6AXIS controller, then bolting on 4MOTION support for those people that have that addon, and perhaps 2EAR headphone support. You only need to look at the quickly added in 6AXIS to see how shit the support for that tilting stuff already is.
As far as Graphics my aging PC is up to spec (supposedly) for the hig spec next gen console (or media centre units, dependant what they want to focus on). So why would I get a next gen console when the offer me nothing my PC can't, the Wii offers me something new my PC can't and it doesn't try and start me down the road of HD-DVD/Blu-Ray which TBH I'm keeping sodding miles away from until the winner is clear, because I'm not going into another VHS/Betamax race again (BTW Sony created Betamax for those that believe the Blu-Ray will win stories).
I think it'll be a success cos it's innovative, fun, enjoyable by a wider market and .... cheap (Just like me)
As far as Graphics my aging PC is up to spec (supposedly) for the hig spec next gen console (or media centre units, dependant what they want to focus on). So why would I get a next gen console when the offer me nothing my PC can't, the Wii offers me something new my PC can't and it doesn't try and start me down the road of HD-DVD/Blu-Ray which TBH I'm keeping sodding miles away from until the winner is clear, because I'm not going into another VHS/Betamax race again (BTW Sony created Betamax for those that believe the Blu-Ray will win stories).
It worked well for Sony, EA, MS up till now hasn't it ? Unless I'm missing something about Halo, Halo 2, the upcoming Halo 3, or GT, GT 2, GT 3, the upcoming GT HD, or perhaps Fifa '02, '03, '04, '05, '06, '07.
I think it'll be a success cos it's innovative, fun, enjoyable by a wider market and .... cheap
(Just like me)Not upset, saw it for the "make Gottaa bite" post that it was Marks, just arguing the toss cos the boss isn't back and I need to ask him stuff before I continue.
I'll also add in I don't think it's the nads, I think it'll be fun (something I don't feel about the other next gen consoles), and gaming should be "fun", not about pixel shading and stroking e-peen.
I'll also add in I don't think it's the nads, I think it'll be fun (something I don't feel about the other next gen consoles), and gaming should be "fun", not about pixel shading and stroking e-peen.
Ky
Stupid is as stupid does
I agree that Gaming should be about fun, yes, but what makes gaming fun is the gameplay rather than anything else. The control method is a gimmick, a novelty and not something that will make the games any better.
Whether Nintendo can put out some really killer games is the big question. They pretty much failed to do so with the Gamecube so why should the Wii be any different?
The sports bundle that comes with it looks fun for the kids and on this basis I think it'll sell a packet. I don't see it making huge inroads into the hardcore gamer market.
We shall see what happens. I don't want a 360 or a PS3 either btw so I'm not being biased
Whether Nintendo can put out some really killer games is the big question. They pretty much failed to do so with the Gamecube so why should the Wii be any different?
The sports bundle that comes with it looks fun for the kids and on this basis I think it'll sell a packet. I don't see it making huge inroads into the hardcore gamer market.
We shall see what happens. I don't want a 360 or a PS3 either btw so I'm not being biased
I didn't think you were being biased but I do think you under-estimate the controls.
Imagine a current game, playing indian jones, running along, press I dunno 'Alt' to fire the whip, catch the lamp swing over the gap, turn around, press Alt to unhook the whip, turn back see the shadow of someone coming around the corner, pull out your gun, aim at head height and then fire as they step around the corner (haha you just shot St00d).
Now imagine those controls from a PC with mouse and keyboard to a current gen/ps3/360 controller, it's all X and O and shoulder buttons and stuff. The Wii could have you running along (direction on the nunchuk) aim with the wii-mote, flick the wrist whip the lamp, press Z on nunchuk (it's single shoulder button) jump, swing, flick the wii-mote at the end of the arc, land, see the shadow, A on the wii-mote to get the gun out, point - aim, steps out, BANG
And hey presto you have a 2 handed sensible control system (much like I feel the PC is far superior to console controls) which includes some fun motions and the skill. That's what floats my boat about the Wii.
And if you don't like Zelda there are no killer apps on the Wii right now (you did look at the meta-critic review yeah ? I mean 96% is pretty killer to me) well maybe Excite Trucks but that's not hitting the UK till Feb, Red Steel I'll still be getting despite reviews and clunky sword fighting, I'll be pre-ordering Metroid Prime (killer FPS app I'm hoping), and having x-mas fun with people with monkey ball and maybe rayman. If I was getting a PS3 I'd wait till Motor Storm was out, 360 I'd get for Assasins Creed if it didn't hit the PC (which i'm pretty convinced it will).
Edit: How much fun can you have with a game you struggle to control ? (it's why I like PC games more than consoles, with the exception of Steel Batallions (what a controller that has) and GT2 (which I control like a remote control car and I think is better than mouse/keyboard))
Imagine a current game, playing indian jones, running along, press I dunno 'Alt' to fire the whip, catch the lamp swing over the gap, turn around, press Alt to unhook the whip, turn back see the shadow of someone coming around the corner, pull out your gun, aim at head height and then fire as they step around the corner (haha you just shot St00d).
Now imagine those controls from a PC with mouse and keyboard to a current gen/ps3/360 controller, it's all X and O and shoulder buttons and stuff. The Wii could have you running along (direction on the nunchuk) aim with the wii-mote, flick the wrist whip the lamp, press Z on nunchuk (it's single shoulder button) jump, swing, flick the wii-mote at the end of the arc, land, see the shadow, A on the wii-mote to get the gun out, point - aim, steps out, BANG
And hey presto you have a 2 handed sensible control system (much like I feel the PC is far superior to console controls) which includes some fun motions and the skill. That's what floats my boat about the Wii.
And if you don't like Zelda there are no killer apps on the Wii right now (you did look at the meta-critic review yeah ? I mean 96% is pretty killer to me) well maybe Excite Trucks but that's not hitting the UK till Feb, Red Steel I'll still be getting despite reviews and clunky sword fighting, I'll be pre-ordering Metroid Prime (killer FPS app I'm hoping), and having x-mas fun with people with monkey ball and maybe rayman. If I was getting a PS3 I'd wait till Motor Storm was out, 360 I'd get for Assasins Creed if it didn't hit the PC (which i'm pretty convinced it will).
Edit: How much fun can you have with a game you struggle to control ? (it's why I like PC games more than consoles, with the exception of Steel Batallions (what a controller that has) and GT2 (which I control like a remote control car and I think is better than mouse/keyboard))
All it'll cost you is a Thai meal
Another reason Wii should win, it'll help clean the gene pool
I think Metroid prime will be a much better show of FPS on the Wii but I'll have Red Steel, but most reviews seem to agree you need to spend an hour getting used to the controls (mainly cos they think the movement box isn't as well implemented as it is on Metroid Prime). Basically imagine a PC shooter where the target is your mouse pointer and instead of either just moving all around the screen without moving the character, or moving the view as you move the mouse up/down/left/right it instead has a dead space in the middle where you don't move the camera just move the target reticle, then outside that dead-zone it moves the camera/view. I hope to god that makes some sense
Another reason Wii should win, it'll help clean the gene pool
I think Metroid prime will be a much better show of FPS on the Wii but I'll have Red Steel, but most reviews seem to agree you need to spend an hour getting used to the controls (mainly cos they think the movement box isn't as well implemented as it is on Metroid Prime). Basically imagine a PC shooter where the target is your mouse pointer and instead of either just moving all around the screen without moving the character, or moving the view as you move the mouse up/down/left/right it instead has a dead space in the middle where you don't move the camera just move the target reticle, then outside that dead-zone it moves the camera/view. I hope to god that makes some sense
