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Gottaa

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I liked it, but didn't Arthur pull the sword from a stone ?

I know it's the BBC but I was a little confused
 
Swither

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I don't think they are following anything but a very very loose version of their own legend.

Ok stuff so far...miles better than the travesty that was Robin Da Hoodie
 
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Cuthrose

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their not following the lengends at all at the moment, the only thing they have is Arthur of Uther son........thats about it....
 
Janie

Janie

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They keep dropping names from the legend in now for an episode - Lancalot, Mordred & Excaliber this week. No idea whats going on with Morgana and Gwen.
 
Cullhaven

Cullhaven

Hernes Son
The problem with Arthurian myth is - what version of the stories do you set it in? Celtic Arthur from The Mabinogion and Welsh Annals? Early medieval Geofrey of Monmouth which has Arthur as emperor of Europe? Angevin Chretien de troyes and his "Courtly Love Arthur? The bit strange vesion from the Parsifal stuf of Wolfram von Eisenbach? Then there is the 14c late medieaval version of Malory, the per-Raphaelite version of Tenyson and Burne-Jones - there is even a modern Re-Telling by T.H.White that changes the Lore substantialy enough to warrant being yeat another "Lore" version. its a very muddy playing field where our national hero is concerned.
 
Cullhaven

Cullhaven

Hernes Son
Beg to differ, twas mainly us and Britainy had arthur - yes other nations writers like Wolfram from germany wrote the odd thing but it was always set in Britain and Britainy. He seems to have originated with the "Realated-to-each-other" celts of Armorica and wales/cornwall. "Arth" means bear in their version of Celtic (P-Celt, I think?) and it is thought that he wa s a totem of a bear cult that you had to join to be chieftain - hence his eventual deep links with the ideal of Kingship. I've not come across Arthur spcifically in Spansih, Italian, germanic or Norse myth though there are similarities - I.E the Norse Bear Sarks who gave us the character class berserker ;)
 
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Cuthrose

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Cullhaven said:
The problem with Arthurian myth is - what version of the stories do you set it in? Celtic Arthur from The Mabinogion and Welsh Annals? Early medieval Geofrey of Monmouth which has Arthur as emperor of Europe? Angevin Chretien de troyes and his "Courtly Love Arthur? The bit strange vesion from the Parsifal stuf of Wolfram von Eisenbach? Then there is the 14c late medieaval version of Malory, the per-Raphaelite version of Tenyson and Burne-Jones - there is even a modern Re-Telling by T.H.White that changes the Lore substantialy enough to warrant being yeat another "Lore" version. its a very muddy playing field where our national hero is concerned.
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When i refer to the Arthur Legend that most people know about, such as Arther is king, gwienve is wife that sleeps with Lancealot land goes....basicly the Exlaba film with patrick stwart, if you want to goin into which lengend is which we can have a very very long chat about it, which i expend will be a thread on only a few people :)
 
Cullhaven

Cullhaven

Hernes Son
Its a great film, but Boorman tried to please everyone, setting it in the 6th century but having them doss about in c14th century plate. It realy dont matter much in the long run, its dont matter wether the directors of such things stick to the legends or "lore" or totally change them - it comes down to how entertaining the piece is. The new BBc Robin Hood falls down on so many levels - yet its still entertaining to me, so I watch it. Excalibur is the same. Merlin I didnt find so entertaining so then all the changes and innacuracies etc started to matter too.
 
Janie

Janie

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I haven't seen Excaliber for many years. I worry seeing it now that it won't hold upto the memory I have it. Recently saw the Princess Bride for the first time seen I was a teenager and it was such a letdown :(
 
Janie

Janie

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It's great whenever Inigo Montoya is on screen. The rest of it is pretty bad to be honest.
 
Cullhaven

Cullhaven

Hernes Son
Watched Willow recently and it s as good as always was, but both Krull and Legend seem dated. Watched the Conan and Red Sonjas too and they came across ok. I'd like to get Beastmaster but a bit worried I'll not like it anymore. Hawk the Slayer is as bad as ever, but that makes it very watcheable starngely enough. Got The dark Crystal and Labyrinth to watch on DVD and im betting because of the puppetry they will seem very old hat.
 
Janie

Janie

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I saw Army of Darkness (evil Dead 3) last week. It doesn't all work (the bit in the windmill is rather cringeworthy) but the final 30 minutes or so are still entertaining, and the original ending is much better than the cinema version.
 
Janie

Janie

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They'd finally managed to write a script that wasn't utterly predictable this weekend - although the ending was abit of a copout! Last episode next week, overall a perfectly watchable show with a mostly likeable cast lifting the rather bland storytelling.
 
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